Is there someone inside you?
你身体里住着另一个人吗？
I love, love, love possession films.
我超级, 超级, 超级爱驱魔电影
Sink.
沉下去
Possession stories
魔鬼附身的故事
touch on our fear of losing control--
触及到我们对失控的恐惧
control of our bodies, of our lives, of our mind.
对我们的身体、生活还有精神失去控制
One day, we could be our normal selves
今天也许还是正常的自己
and the next day be a raging lunatic
第二天可能就变为一个发狂的疯子
spouting arcane languages or obscenities.
满口污言秽语
The sow is mine.
这头母猪是我的！
The power of Christ compels you!
以上帝的名义命令你！
"The Exorcist" is held up as being the holy grail
《驱魔人》被奉为当之无愧的
rightfully so, of possession movies.
驱魔电影中的圣杯
I'm the devil.
我即是恶魔
The world was afraid of this movie
全世界都害怕这部电影
and they were afraid of me.
全世界都害怕我
"The Omen" is like my hands-down
《凶兆》绝对是我
favorite horror movie.
最喜欢的恐怖电影
Look at me, Damien.
看看我，达米安
There's just something inherently creepy about kids.
人们对小孩有种本能的恐惧
Your loved one is not who you assumed they were
你所爱的人不再是你以为的那个人
and we saw that to wonderful effect
我们能看出那绝妙的特效
in both of the "Evil Dead" films.
两部《鬼玩人》里都是
You're bitten by your girlfriend who's possessed.
你被你中邪的女朋友咬了
Your hand's gonna get possessed
你的手被鬼上身了
so your hand's gonna attack you.
你的手会反过来攻击你自己
Looks like something bit you.
看起来像被什么东西咬了
"Paranormal Activity" was a game-changer for me.
《鬼影实录》对我来说是翻天覆地的
It was a new way in.
这是个新的电影题材
Get out.
快逃
"Get Out" is a possession film.
《逃出绝命镇》其实是一部驱魔电影
It is a possession film.
是部驱魔(附身)电影
A force that's evil.
一股邪恶力量
They have nothing but bad intentions for you.
恶意满满地觊觎着你
Oh, my God!
我的天啊！
What am I seeing happening?
我都看到了些什么？
时间轴/翻译：@黑路易
伊莱·罗斯的恐怖历史
心魔
The fear that demons will enter our bodies
对邪魔侵入我们的身体的恐惧
and make us do terrible things
迫使我们做出骇人的事情
has haunted mankind for millennia.
这种恐惧笼罩了人类千年
In recent times, it has inspired some of
而在现代，这启发了许多
the most frightening films ever made...
影史上最令人恐惧的电影
Fever dreams like "Night of the Demons"
像《猛鬼舔人》一样的狂热梦境
and "Hellraiser"...
还有《养鬼吃人》
We'll tear your soul apart.
我们会撕碎你的灵魂
Fictionalized case histories
虚构历史事件题材
such as "The Exorcism of Emily Rose"
比如《艾米丽·罗斯的驱魔》
and "The Last Exorcism."
还有《最后一次驱魔》
The nightmare of being taken over by a sinister
被邪恶力量所劫持的梦魇
导演：罗曼·波兰斯基
《冷血惊魂》1965
can be seen as a metaphor for mental illness
可能是对精神疾病的比喻
but what if these films reflect a deeper truth--
但如果这些电影能反映出更深层的真相呢？
a truth about the nature of good and evil?
如果能反映出善与恶的本质呢？
导演：詹姆斯·温
《招魂》(2013)
In the name of Jesus Christ, the saints, and all the angels
以耶稣基督、圣徒和所有天使的名义
I command you to reveal yourself!
我命令你现身！
Demons are real.
恶魔是真实存在的
We're so used to seeing the world
我们习惯了仅仅以
柯南·伊恩·艾略特·戴维斯 牧师
in just very few dimensions-- time and space
以极少的维度看世界，如时间和空间...
depth and appearance.
或深层和表面
There is so much more at work in our universe
我们的宇宙中肉眼可见的部分
than that which just meets the naked eye.
只是沧海一粟
Though our fears are ancient
尽管我们的恐惧穿越亘古
导演：费德·阿尔瓦雷兹
《鬼玩人》(2013)
films about demonic possession
关于恶灵附身的电影
are a relatively recent phenomenon.
却是近现代的产物
Hollywood's Motion Picture Production Code
好莱坞的电影制片准则
set strict moarl guidelines on content
对这方面内容设定了严格的指导方针
from the early 1930s to the late 1960s.
从1930年代一直到60年代
There is no room on the screen
大银幕上都没有任何
at any time for pictures which offend against common decency.
违反基本社会礼节的电影存在
导演：本杰明·克里斯滕森
《女巫》(1922)
Outside of the Swedish film "Haxan" from 1922
除1922年瑞士电影《女巫》
Demonic possessions rerely appear on screen
恶灵附身情节很少出现在银幕上
until 1973...
直到1973年...
the year of "The Exorcist."
《驱魔人》上映的那年
导演：威廉·弗莱德金
《驱魔人》(1973)
Obviously, "The Exorcist" is held up as...
《驱魔人》当之无愧是
雷·沃纳尔
编剧/导演 代表作《升级》
Being the holy grail, rightfully so of possession movies.
驱魔电影中的圣杯
"The Exorcist" is about a priest
《驱魔人》讲述了一名神父
that had his own demons
内心有着自己的恶魔
he had been following years prior.
他已被恶魔追随了几年
Years later, he finds himself in the same position
几年后，他发现自己与同一个恶魔
琳达·布莱尔
演员
代表作《驱魔人》
with this same demon
再次针锋相对
but this time, it's inside of a young girl.
但这一次牵扯到一个小女孩
The whole thing was to draw in Father Merrin
一切都是为了引来梅林神父
to get him to do war-- battle one more time.
为了挑起战争，与他再次交锋
Captain Howdy?
豪迪队长？
Linda Blair's character, Regan
琳达·布莱尔的角色芮根
电影学者
becomes another person because this demon is inside of her.
由于恶魔的侵染，她变成了另一个人
-I'm Damien Karras. -And I'm the devil.
-我是达米安·卡拉斯 -我还是恶魔呢
Now kindly undo these straps.
现在乖乖把捆绑带解开
If you're the devil, why not make the straps disappear?
如果你是恶魔，为什么不直接让带子消失？
That's much too vulgar a display of power, Karras.
这种展现力量的方式太粗俗了，卡拉斯
Satan plays the role of Satan.
撒旦扮演着魔王的角色
杰克·布莱克
演员
I don't know if that's Satan or a bunch of demons.
我也不懂到底是撒旦还是一群恶魔
Doesn't matter.
无关紧要
-Where's Regan? -In here with us.
-芮根在哪里？ -在这跟我们一起
The actor is really the one selling the idea of possession.
演员的表演才是表现附身的关键
So you've got to have a great actor to play...
所以必须由优秀的演员
Somebody who's possessed.
来演被附身的人
Keep away! The sow is mine!
别过来！这头母猪是我的！
Billy Friedkin, the director, really wanted to make sure
导演威廉·弗莱德金非常希望
that Regan was just any generic all-American little girl.
芮根的形象是一个平凡的美国小姑娘
Her transformation from this very sweet
她从一个非常甜美...
作家
very typical young girl...
非常典型的小女孩...
Oh, Mom, can't we get a horse?
妈妈，我们能养匹小马吗？
Into a monster I think comments on this anxiety
转变成一个怪物，这个过程抨击了
that the young people of the country were moving away
这个国家的年轻人正在背弃
from the conservative norms of society.
保守的社会规范
It was 1973
那是1973年
so we were recently out of Vietnam
所以我们刚刚从越南撤军
and the hippie movement was still in full swing.
嬉皮士运动正如火如荼
There was definitely upheaval going on
当时正在经历剧变
米克·加里斯
主创
代表作《恐怖大师》
social upheaval going on, and generational conflict.
社会在经历剧变，隔代之间冲突四起
You have a mother who's trying to deal with a daughter
这个母亲想要处理好与女儿的关系
大卫·J·斯卡尔
作家
who has suddenly become something else
而女儿突然之间变了一个人
and this is what a lot of parents felt like.
这就是为人父母的感受
The horror stuff doesn't really come in
直到影片的后半程
until, like, the second half
恐怖的情节才降临
乔·丹特
导演
代表作《小魔怪》
but the first half is all sort of upsetting images
然而前半部分充满了令人不安的画面
and strange depictions of medical procedures.
还有对医疗程序的诡异刻画
It isn't just that medical science is inadequate;
现代医学不仅无法解决问题
it's that medical science
医学科学更是
is even kind of destructive toward the child.
对孩子造成了毁灭性影响
Religion is really the only answer.
宗教信仰才是唯一的答案
You ever heard of exorcism?
你听说过驱魔吗？
By the time the horror stuff happens
等到恐怖的桥段上演时
the audience is pretty much desensitized.
观众们基本已经麻木了
They're already pummeled by the movie that they've seen
观众已经被看过的部分击溃了
and it was extremely manipulative
电影非常巧妙地操控着人心
and not a very nice movie
而且这不是一部友善的电影
in the sense of being good to the audience.
对观众来讲电影并不是很友善
Every time they track down the hallway to the door
每次镜头向走廊尽头的房门靠近
the audience did not-- they wanted to but didn't--
观众们都不想...他们想看但又不想看...
"Yes, no, yes, no"-- to go into that door.
“进，不进，进，不进”犹豫不决
It's a hard movie to watch.
这是一部不忍看下去的电影
What happens to Linda Blair is just--it's terrible.
发生在琳达·布莱尔身上的事太糟糕
The scene where I'm sitting up and down really fast.
我不断快速地坐起又倒下的那场戏
Please, Mother, make it stop!
求你了妈妈，让它停下！
It's basically, like, a metal brace
有一个金属的支架
and then I'm tied in on each side.
在两侧把我固定好
Unfortunately, they didn't tie it in really good.
不幸的是他们固定得不是很好
It fractured my lower spine, so that's what's on camera
摄影机背后是我骨折的下椎骨
and the screaming and yelling is real.
那些尖叫和哭喊都是真实的
Make it stop! It's killing me!
让它停下！我好痛苦！
Mother...
妈妈...
My mother had gotten a call saying
我母亲接到过一个电话
"Can Jamie audition...?"
“杰米能来试镜吗？”
杰米·李·柯蒂斯
演员
"For 'The Exorcist? "
“来试镜《驱魔人》？”
And my mother said, "Uh, no."
我母亲说：“呃，不了吧”
"I don't think so."
“还是算了吧”
And then it came out, and we screened it
之后电影上映了，我们后来在
for my 15th birthday.
我15岁生日时放映过
"The Exorcist."
《驱魔人》
Your mother's in here with us, Karras.
你母亲也在这里呢，卡拉斯
Would you like to leave a message?
你想留个口信吗？
It freaked me so badly
这电影把我吓坏了
that for the rest of my high school life
之后我的整个高中生活里
my friends made fun of me, and they would taunt me.
我的朋友都会来捉弄我
"Dami. Dami. Dami, why you do this to me, Dami?"
“戴米，戴米，你为什么这样对我？戴米？”
Dami. Why you do this to me?
戴米，你为什么这样对我？
"Dami, why you do this to me, Dami?"
“戴米，你为什么这样对我？戴米？”
You're not my mother!
你不是我母亲！
That movie scared me so much that I'm Jewish
那部电影把我一个犹太人都吓得不轻
萨拉·帕克斯顿
演员
代表作《杀人不分左右》
and it made me believe in the devil.
并且让我相信有恶魔存在
I would sleep with a rosary next to my bed every night.
每晚我都在床头放一串玫瑰念珠
I have full-blown "Exorcist" PTSD, so...
完全的《驱魔人》创伤应激反应
What an excellent day for an exorcism.
真是个驱魔的好日子
The whole thing about "The Exorcist" was...
关于《驱魔人》就是...
昆汀·塔伦蒂诺
导演
Like it may be too intense for human beings.
这对人类来说有点过于激烈了
That it wasn't just a horror film in '73
这不仅仅是一部1973年的恐怖片
when it came out; it was...
当电影上映时，简直是...
You were experiencing the devil.
你简直就在直面恶魔
Yeah, and that people, like
人们都开始...
committed suicide after they saw "The Exorcist,"
看过《驱魔人》后自杀身亡
or people were put in insane asylums
或者看过《驱魔人》的人都被
after they saw "The Exorcist,"
关进了精神病院
And every new issue of the "National Enquirer" had
每一期新的《国民问询报》上
you know, "My son went crazy and is in a straitjacket.
都会有类似”我儿子现在进了精神病院“
How watching 'The Exorcist' ruined my life."
”《驱魔人》毁我家庭害人不浅“之类的报导
I dream of reviews like that.
我做梦都想收到这种评价
People went back to the church in droves
在电影上映之后
after that film came out.
人们趋之若鹜，争先回到教堂
The world was afraid of this movie...
全世界都在忌惮这部电影
and they were afraid of me
全世界都在忌惮我
and they wanted to have answers about good and evil
人们希望得到关于正邪之战的答案
and was the devil really coming?
恶魔真的要降临人间了吗？
There's no place to hide--your religion
人们无处可藏——无论宗教信仰
your relationship to God.
还是你与神明的联系
No, none of that. There's no safe haven anywhere.
全都没用，不存在任何避风港
亚里克斯·温特
演员/导演
Even the afterlife isn't safe. I mean, you're gonna get there
即使来世也不安全，即使你到了来世
and be in hell like poor Father Damien.
也会像可怜的达米安神父一样坠入地狱
I mean, it's this idea that there's literally no escape
这种无法逃脱的感受
not even if you're dead.
连死亡都无法让你解脱
That is, you know, to me the idea of pure a horror movie.
对我来说这就是一部纯粹的恐怖电影
I think it's the greatest horror film ever made
我认为这是有史以来最伟大的恐怖片
and that's the horror film that I think that will never be...
这样的高度是其他恐怖片...
Duplicated, all right? I don't see...
无法达到的，是不是？我不...
I agree. I don't think it'll ever be beat.
我同意，我认为它无法被超越
"The Exorcist" drew on all the resources
《驱魔人》调动了
of Hollywood in the 1970s
七十年代好莱坞的一切资源
one of the peak periods of American film.
届时正是美国电影界的顶峰阶段
Decades later
几十年后
a first-time director shooting in his house
一位在自家拍摄的新手导演
proved you don't need a big budget or special effects
证明了高成本大制作与丰富的特效
to bring a demonic possession to terrifying life.
并不是将恶灵附身的恐惧带入现实的关键
I can feel it watching me.
我能感觉到它在看我
In 2007, software engineer Oren Peli
2007年，一名软件工程师
导演：奥伦·佩利
《鬼影实录》(2007)
decided to make a low-budget movie
决心要拍一部低成本电影
about a demonic possession.
讲述一段恶灵附身的故事
The result was "Paranormal Activity,"
其成果即是《鬼影实录》
the most profitable film of all time
史上最盈利的电影
and one of the most unnerving movies ever made.
也是影史中最令人紧张的影片之一
Oren made the movie for $15,000.
奥伦以一万五千元的成本完成了电影
He shot it at his house.
并于自家拍摄
杰森·布伦
怖屋监制出品 创始人
He had a crew of about three people.
他的剧组大概就三个人
And the crew consisted of my girlfriend at the time
其中包括我当时的女友
and then my best friend, Amir, I told him
还有我最好的朋友阿米尔，我问他
"I'm gonna shoot a movie. Do you want to help me?"
“我要拍一部恐怖片，想来帮忙吗？”
奥伦·佩利
编剧/导演 代表作《鬼影实录》
And he said, "Sure. It sounds fun
他说“当然了，听着挺好玩的”
but I don't know anything about making movies."
“但我对拍电影一窍不通”
I said, "Perfect. Neither do I."
我说“太好了，我也一样”
All right, we're operational, babe.
行了，准备好了宝贝
Shot entirely in the found footage style
全片以伪纪录风格拍摄
the story follows Micah and Katie
故事跟随米卡和凯蒂
a young suburban couple who move into a new house
一对年轻的夫妇刚刚搬进一间城郊的新房
that seems to be haunted.
而房子里似乎闹鬼
In fact, Katie is being tormented by a demon
事实上，凯蒂正被一个恶灵折磨
that feeds off of negative energy.
以她的负面情绪为食
...out there.
...那边
There is a difference between a ghost and a demon.
幽灵和恶灵是不一样的
导演：吉尔莫·德尔·托罗
《猩红山峰》(2015)
Ghosts are simply the spirits of people who
幽灵只是一些死去的人
They don't want to move on
不愿离开的灵体
and they kind of linger around in their own dimension.
它们在自己的维度游荡
But demons are inherently evil
但恶灵是天生邪恶的
They want to possess people...
它们想要附身于人类
Feel it?
感觉到了吗？
I feel it breathing on me.
我能感觉到它的呼吸
But a demon is attached to a person.
但恶灵是依附于某个人身上的
Leaving the house doesn't really solve anything.
离开房子并不能解决任何问题
They're still gonna follow you wherever you're gonna go.
恶灵依然会寸步不离地跟随着你
It's not the house. It's me.
不是房子的问题，是我
You know, wherever I go, it goes.
无论我去哪，它都在
Micah sets up cameras
于是米卡支起摄影机
to record the supernatural events
想录下超自然事件的发生
which makes things worse.
而这让事态急转直下
It felt very much like what would happen to anyone
感觉就像会发生在任何人身上
伊利亚·伍德
演员/制片人
if they were going through that.
任何人都可能经历
What is your quest?
你的要求是什么？
The sounds, wanting to record it
想要录下不寻常的声音
playing with the Ouija board.
捣鼓捣鼓通灵板
Got something to say?
想说点什么吗？
That moment...
就在那一刻...
-When he was talking to a Ouija board. -Yeah.
-他对着通灵板说话的时候 -没错
You're like... Oh, I was like
-你会... -哦，我大喊
"Run, motherfucker. Run!"
“傻子，快跑啊”
As the couple grows more desperate
夫妇两人愈发绝望
the demon trying to possess Katie
想要附身凯蒂的恶魔
grows stronger and stronger.
变得越来越强大
Just let's go. Please, let's go.
我们走吧，求求你
"Paranormal Activity" was a game-changer for me
《鬼影实录》对我造成翻天覆地的影响
because it just showed, with a minimalist approach
因为这告诉人们以最简单的手法
乔丹·皮尔
编剧/导演 代表作《逃出绝命镇》
you can scare the shit out of people with mostly pacing...
就靠在屋里踱步也依然能吓坏人们
Mm-hmm. And the way
-没错 -还有就是
you tell the story.
讲述故事的方式
I mean, like, what happens in that movie?
想想看，电影里都发生了什么？
A couple sheets come off...
弄掉几张床单...
You know, the bed
还有床...
the girl gets pulled through the door
女孩被拉出门外
and yet, when they come up on, like, day 28 or whatnot
到了电影里的第28天还是哪里
and you know some shits about to go down
你清楚有不好的事要发生了
I remember the entire audience
我还记得整场的观众
going, "Ohhh."
都开始“噢不...”
There's something about the vulnerability
在人们熟睡的时候
that you have while you're asleep
有种特别的无助感
and which I think is something very kind of
我认为这种感觉
engrained in human nature from the days we were cavemen
自打原始时期就刻在了我们的天性里
and you don't know if a tiger is gonna come into your cave
当你熟睡时，你无法知道是否会有老虎
and kill you while you're asleep.
潜入你的洞穴来杀死你
And the fact that that movie shattered that space and said
电影打破了私人空间的界限
"Well, when you go home tonight
“当你今晚回家”
"you're gonna be thinking about what this couple
“你会一直想着这对夫妇”
endured in that bedroom," it's incredibly effective.
“在卧室里经历的事情”这相当有效果
"Paranormal Activity's" goal was simple:
《鬼影实录》的目的非常单纯
to scare the audience.
就是惊吓观众
Jen?
珍？
导演：卡瑞恩·萨库马
《詹妮弗的肉体》(2009)
The horror/comedy "Jennifer's Body"
恐怖喜剧《詹妮弗的肉体
had a serious and uniquely feminist agenda
则带有其严肃而特别的
女性主义目的
using demonic possession
利用恶灵附身的情节
to comment on the hell of being a teenage girl
来痛斥这个青春期女孩身处的
in a culture obsessed with appearance.
痴迷于外貌主义的社会文化
Hi, Jennifer. You look really pretty.
嗨，詹妮弗，你看起来真漂亮
What up, Craig?
你好啊，克雷格
Jennifer is a alpha female bitch
詹妮弗是一个女性之上主义者
迪亚波罗·科蒂
编剧 代表作《詹妮弗的肉体》
who is beautiful and popular
她美丽动人，受人欢迎
and Needy is her worshipful nerdy friend.
妮迪就是崇拜她的书呆子朋友
Jennifer is actually a really intelligent
詹妮弗其实是一个非常聪明...
clever, interesting person, but nobody cares about that.
...机灵而有趣的人，但没人在乎这些
Jennifer is cursed before she is cursed
詹妮弗受到诅咒之前就早已被诅咒
because all people can do is look at her
因为身边所有人只是欣赏她的外表
as opposed to engage with her.
而不是与她交流认识
卡瑞恩·萨库马
导演 代表作《詹妮弗的肉体》
It's an incredibly dehumanized place to be living in.
这个社会环境难以置信地将人物化、去人性化
She does have this incredible power
她的美丽拥有如此惊人的力量
that comes with her beauty. She uses it.
而她懂得利用这个力量
These are like smart bombs, okay?
这是两只智能炸弹，好吗？
You point them in the right direction
只要瞄准方向
and shit gets real.
一切水到渠成
But it's not nearly as satisfying to her as
但这一切都不及
When she actually gets these supernatural powers.
得到超自然力量之后更令她满足
Jennifer is the victim of a demonic ritual gone wrong.
詹妮弗是一场恶灵召唤仪式失控的受害者
This rock band, in an attempt to become famous...
一支想要出名的摇滚乐队...
Do you know how hard it is to make it
你知道现在这个世道
as an indie band these days?
作为独立乐队有多难成功吗？
Attempt to murder her because they think she is a virgin
他们认为她还是处女，于是蓄意谋杀她
and that they are sacrificing a virgin.
他们想要献祭一名处女
But she is not a virgin
但她并不是处女
and as a result, the spell goes haywire
因此，这个咒语失控了
and Jennifer is possessed by a demon
詹妮弗被一个恶灵附了身
and starts eating boys to satisfy the demon
开始生吃男孩来满足这个恶灵
and Needy has to stop her.
而妮迪需要阻止她
I am rooting for Jennifer when I watch the movie.
看电影的时候我是站在詹妮弗这边的
This idea of just being, like, hot and invincible...
想象能够成为既火辣又无敌的人
I feel so scrumptious.
我感觉妙极了
Was about how teenage girls are objectified
这是关于青春期少女被物化的故事
it was about female sexual appetites.
是关于女性的性欲望
It was about the idea
是关于将青春期
of puberty being a transformative thing
看作一种转变的过程
and using a sort of a monstrous transformation
利用这种怪物化的剧烈转变
as a way of talking about that.
作为探讨这个主题的方式
Are you scared?
你怕了吗？
The notion of the female as monstrous
将女性比喻为怪物
in itself has been a central tenet of horror
本身就是恐怖作品的中心原则
and that's what remains
这也一直都是
profoundly meaningful to me about horror
恐怖片对我具有的深刻意义
is it's one of the few genres that's had the guts to say
因为这是少数还有胆量说出...
as a culture, we are terrified of women and girls.
“作为一种文化，我们惧怕女性”的类型片
Hi.
嗨
But it was so freeing for me
但我感到如此的解放
to be able to explore those themes in a completely
能够得以探索这些主题
just heightened gory bananas atmosphere.
在这种完全疯狂而血腥的气氛之中
You know, they have this fight at the end of the movie
在影片结尾的这场争斗中
and Needy stabs Jennifer in the heart
妮迪刺穿了詹妮弗的心脏
It's like my way of saying, like
这就是我以我的方式告诉人们
"You're all staring at this girl's breasts..."
“你们都在盯着这个女孩的胸看”
-My tit. -No. Your heart.
-我的胸 -不，是你的心
But what this is really about is her feelings.
真正重要的是她的感情
You don't get to do over-the-top stuff like that
在其他比较保守的电影里
in a more understated genre.
是没法以这样夸张的形式表现的
You can only do that in a horror movie.
只有恐怖电影做得到
You know what? You were never a good friend.
你知道吗？你从来不是个好朋友
"Jennifer's Body" got a mixed reception
《詹妮弗的肉体》上映之后的评论
on its release
褒贬不一
but the director's cut is now a cult favorite.
但其导演剪辑版现在却备受邪典青睐
You got a tampon?
有棉条吗？
Stylistically, it owes a debt
在题材上，电影无疑借鉴了
to one of the most influential cult movies of all time:
史上最具影响力的邪典电影
"The Evil Dead."
《鬼玩人》
When it comes to demonic possession movies
当提到恶灵附身电影
导演：山姆·雷米
《鬼玩人》(1981)
few can match the manic energy
很少有电影在癫狂和
And no-holds-barred horror
无底线的恐惧上
of Sam Raimi's film, "The Evil Dead."
与山姆·雷米的《鬼玩人》相匹敌
Hey, Scotty, what's this place like, anyway?
斯考提，这地方什么样子？
Well, the guy that's renting it says
租房的人说
it's an old place-- a little run down
这是个旧房子，有点破了
but it's right up in the mountains.
但是位于山林深处
"The Evil Dead" is about a group of...
《鬼玩人》讲述了一群...
Fairly dumb college kids who go out to a remote
蠢蠢的大学生来到一处
雷·沃纳尔
编剧/导演 代表作《升级》
Cabin in the woods to have a fun little break.
偏远的林中小屋来度个小假
They see the cabin. They should be running
看到这座小屋，他们真应该掉头就跑
in the opposite direction to the nearest Motel 6
跑到最近的快捷旅店去
but instead, they go in. They promptly find
然而他们毅然住了进去，很快
a reel-to-reel recorder in the basement
他们在地下室发现了一部录音机
which of course they play.
当然了，他们放了录音带
It contains demonic incantations
其中包含了恶灵召唤的咒语
that wake up the dead.
这唤醒了林中的死灵
Shut it off!
把它关掉！
Oh, my God!
哦，我的天！
Dead rise and proceed to possess these kids
死灵复活后开始一个接一个地...
one by one, and carnage and mayhem ensues.
附身于这些学生，并伴随着屠杀和残害
It seems like the simplest setup
看起来就是最简单的设定
格里高利·尼克特洛
执行制片人/导演 代表作《行尸走肉》
but man, oh, man, it was relentless.
但是天啊，这电影真是凶残
And you're just, like, blown away.
看到的人都会深受震撼
Why have you disturbed our sleep
你为何打扰我们沉睡？
awakened us from our ancient slumber?
将我们从万古沉眠中唤醒？
You will die!
纳命来！
What is fascinating about the possession genre
关于附身类电影令人着迷的一点就是
布莱恩·富勒
代表作《汉尼拔》
编剧/主创
of horror films is your loved one
你的所爱之人
is not who you assumed they were.
不再是你熟知的那个人
That's the most terrifying thing
这就是最吓人的地方
and we saw that to wonderful effect
在两部《鬼玩人》电影中都能看到
in both of the "Evil Dead" films.
对这种恐惧的体现
And it was this grainy, 16-millimeter movie
这是一部粗糙的、拿16毫米胶片拍摄的电影
that you could tell was, like, made by amateurs
能够看出是门外汉搞出来的
鲍勃·穆拉夫斯基
电影剪辑师 代表作《鬼玩人III：魔界英豪》
with that kind of, like, single-spotlight lighting
还有那种单一的打光
and everything else.
还有一切细节
But at the same time was really scary
但同时电影又非常恐怖
and--I mean, Sam was trying to make a scary movie.
山姆是在尽全力拍出一部恐怖电影
The first person had to get injured by one of these demons
第一个受害者一定要被恶魔所伤
布鲁斯·坎贝尔
演员 代表作《鬼玩人》
so we did it the first character's kneeling down
于是我们让第一个角色跪下来
and the demon gets a pencil and stabs it in the ankle.
然后恶魔拿过一支铅笔捅进了他的脚踝
That one got a big reaction out of the audience
这一段在观众中引发了巨大反应
'cause I don't think they knew
因为他们并不知道
how visceral the movie was gonna be until it started.
随着发展电影会变得多血腥
I fear that the only way to stop those possessed
恐怕唯一能阻止
by the spirits of the book
被书中恶灵附身的方法
is through the act of bodily dismemberment.
只有进行肢解
So whenever you hear that you can only stop something
所以当你听到有什么事情
through bodily dismemberment, you know you're gonna be in
只能通过肢解的方法来解决时，就能知道...
for a good show of gore and horror, right?
这肯定是血肉横飞的一出好戏
There is always the standard aspect of the scream queen...
恐怖片里总会有个尖叫皇后的标配
Sam wanted to up it. He thought...
山姆想加剧这个效果，他想到...
It was one thing to have a woman scream
让一个女人尖叫是一码事
but what if you made a man scream like a girl?
但如果能让一个男人像女生一样尖叫呢?
Like, "I want it to be that horrifying."
“我想拍出这样的恐怖”
There was also something else about "Evil Dead"
让《鬼玩人》如此流行的
that made it particularly cool was
还有另一点
昆汀·塔伦蒂诺
导演
well, you had to get it.
你得能领会到
Not everyone could get it.
不是所有人都领会得到
It was cheap
电影拍得便宜
so you had to be able to not just look beyond that;
所以你不仅得能够无视这点
you had to embrace it.
你还得全身心接受
It is scary, but there is a really weird
电影很恐怖，但它带着一种
sense of humor that, if you're not in line with it
诡异的幽默感，如果你感受不到
you're gonna think, "Oh, that's just a piece of junk."
你只会想：“噢，这拍的什么垃圾”
In 1981, "The Evil Dead"
1981年的《鬼玩人》
launched the career of its gifted director
让21岁的山姆·雷米
21-year-old Sam Raimi.
走上了导演生涯
Six years later, Raimi returned
六年后，雷米带着
with "Evil Dead 2,"
《鬼玩人II》回归
导演：山姆·雷米
《鬼玩人II》(1987)
a wildly creative remake of the first film.
一部建立在前作基础上
天马行空的狂想
With "Evil Dead 2" in particular
到了《鬼玩人II》时
I think Sam Raimi just said
山姆·雷米大概觉得
"You know what? Let's just go for it."
“我们就豁出去了吧”
Let's just embrace the fun.
我们直接迎接幽默
You're bitten by your girlfriend
被恶灵附身的女朋友咬了你一口
who's possessed, your hand's gonna get possessed
结果你的手也被附身了
so your hand's gonna attack you.
现在你自己的手要来攻击你
So it was just a long, grueling sequence.
于是有了这段漫长而折磨人的情节
It's like, get the Three Stooges
就像《三个臭皮匠》
but give them a chainsaw...
拿到了一把电锯
And see what would happen.
再看会发生什么
Groovy.
得劲
If you're a movie-mad young guy in your early 20s
如果你是一个二十出头的疯狂影迷
and you see "Evil Dead 2,"
你刚看了《鬼玩人II》
and you see that shooting style it's like, "Well..."
看了电影的拍摄风格，你会觉得
What's the point of ever shooting any movie not like that?"
“别的电影怎么能不这样拍呢？”
I know. All right? That seemed like
可不是吗！这就像是
"Okay, a new shooting style has been developed
“好啦，现在新的拍摄风格已经出现”
and everything else looks old-fashioned by comparison."
“对比之下其他所有看起来都过时了”
Every single thing just seems
每一件小事情看起来都
old-fashioned and dated
过时而老掉牙
unless you're doing that.
除非你拍的是《鬼玩人》
"The Evil Dead" pitted a regular guy
《鬼玩人》让一个普通人
against a horde of demons
与一大群恶魔对抗
but what chance do you have
但当你面对的是撒旦本人时
when you're up against Satan himself?
你又能有多少胜算？
Christianity teaches
基督教教义中
that Jesus Christ was the son of God
耶稣基督是神之子
born of mortal woman.
由凡人女子生下
What if Satan decided that he too
但如果撒旦决定
would father a child?
他也要诞下一子呢？
In 1968, Roman Polanski's film "Rosemary's Baby"
1968年，罗曼·波兰斯基的电影《罗斯玛丽的婴儿》
explored the links between pregnancy, parenthood
探索了关于怀孕，亲子关系
and demonic possession.
还有恶灵附身之间的联系
导演：罗曼·波兰斯基
《罗斯玛丽的婴儿》(1968)
You're pregnant.
你怀孕啦
"Rosemary's Baby" is a really interesting
《罗斯玛丽的婴儿》是
一部非常有趣的电影
because, artistically, it's one of the best films
在艺术造诣上更是跻身
to come out in that era and probably ever.
那个时代甚至有史以来的最佳之一
I'm Rosemary Woodhouse. Uh, we're in 7E.
我是罗斯玛丽·伍德豪斯，我们住在7E号
That movie made $30 million
那部电影赚了三千万美元
昆汀·塔伦蒂诺
导演
back when movies didn't make $30 million
在那时电影还赚不到三千万美元
not in their first run.
至少第一次上映做不到
I mean, if a movie made $12 million, "Oh, wow."
如果一部电影赚了一千二百万，那已经很棒了
That's a smash.
这算大卖了
-It's a phenomenon. -It was a phenomenon.
-已经算现象级了 -是现象级了
And the devil had never been dealt with
而且恶魔从未以这样
in that realistic a form before.
现实的形式呈现过
It's a hugely important film
这是一部非常重要的电影
because it's portraying a woman at...
因为电影刻画的女性
The height of second-wave feminism.
身处第二波女权运动顶峰时期
It also coincides with a rise in interest
这同时顺应了当时
in all kinds of alternative religions and occultism
非主流宗教和神秘学的兴起
that was happening in the '60s.
而这些都发生在60年代
It was a period where there was, you know
在这一时期到处盛行一些...
汤姆·麦克洛克林
编剧/导演
代表作《十三号星期五VI》
questioning, you know, God, the existence of God.
质疑，比如上帝存在与否
I think it was even on "Time" magazine
我记得甚至时代杂志有一期
you know, "Is God Dead?"
封面就是 “上帝已死？”
No, you're not religious, my dear, are you?
你不信教吧，亲爱的？
I was brought up a Catholic. Now I don't know.
我生于天主教家庭，但现在不太确定
In "Rosemary's Baby,"
在《罗斯玛丽的婴儿》中
the heroine is drugged by Satanists.
女主角被撒旦教教徒下了药
Then the devil literally enters her through rape.
继而被恶魔以强奸的方式侵入
-She's awake. She sees. -Can't see or hear.
-她还醒着，会看到的 -她看不见听不着的
She's like dead. Now sing.
跟死了没两样，快唱吧
Rosemary becomes pregnant with Satan's child.
罗斯玛丽怀上了撒旦的子嗣
This is no dream. This is really happening!
这不是梦，这正在发生！
"Rosemary's Baby" was a possession movie.
《罗斯玛丽的婴儿》是一部恶灵附身电影
It was about someone carrying the seed of Satan within her
讲述的是有人腹中怀上了撒旦的种子
米克·加里斯
主创
代表作《恐怖大师》
and giving birth to Satan's child.
并生下了撒旦之子
This is actually how Satan or his minions
这就是撒旦与他的爪牙
can infest each of us
寄生于我们的方式
and draw out the evil within us.
并引出我们心中的邪恶
It, to me, remains a metaphor
对我来说这一直是种...
about domestic violence
对家庭暴力的隐喻
about emotional violence in relationships
代表着两性之间的关系中
卡瑞恩·萨库马
导演
代表作《詹妮弗的肉体》
between men and women
心理和情感上的暴力
largely inflicted by men onto women.
普遍是由男性施加于女性身上
I didn't want to miss baby night.
我不想错过宝宝之夜
You...while I was out?
你...趁我睡着时...？
And a couple of my nails were ragged
我的指甲都折了几个
and it was kind of fun in a necrophile sort of way.
感觉还挺像恋尸癖的
When I saw "Rosemary's Baby" when I was very young
我看《罗斯玛丽的婴儿》时还很年轻
I don't think I thought, "Oh, this is female consciousness,"
我不会想到“这是女性的觉醒”
玛丽·哈伦
导演 代表作《美国精神病人》
but obviously, there aren't that many movies
但是当时显然没有那么多
from within a young woman's point of view.
以一个年轻女人视角拍的电影
We know Polanski's guilty of all these things
我们知道波兰斯基在私下生活中
in his personal life, but as a filmmaker
犯下的诸多罪过，但作为电影人
he's incredibly sympathetic to the female point of view.
他对女性视角是能够感同身受的
And the relationship between Rosemary
还有罗斯玛丽和她丈夫的关系
and her husband is fantastic.
表现得非常绝妙
John Cassavetes' amazing performance
约翰·卡萨维帝令人惊叹的表演
as the desperate actor
角色作为一个绝望的演员
杰克·布莱克
演员
who will do anything to get that big break.
为了走红愿意付出任何代价
Let's have a baby, all right?
我们生个孩子，好吗？
Rosemary's very much the lovely
罗斯玛丽就是一个
submissive wife who is there to help her husband out
可人而顺从的妻子，心甘情愿地帮助丈夫
and what that gets her
然而结果是
is getting impregnated by the devil.
她被恶魔所受孕
Her husband basically sells her to Satan
她的丈夫基本上将她卖给了撒旦
in exchange for a Broadway hit.
以换来在百老汇的成功
Oh, I got the part.
我得到那个角色了！
It was a hell of a way to get it.
这可真是不容易
One of the things I really love about horror
关于恐怖片我非常热爱的一点就是
and the nightmares that it touches on
片中的噩梦所触及的地方
are the idea of security and a stable, normal place
都是让人觉得安全而稳定的寻常环境
that turns out to be a place of danger
然而变成了危险重重的地方
or a person who seems to be a friendly person.
或者一个看起来友善和蔼的人
And, of course, one of the greatest things
当然了，《罗斯玛丽的婴儿》中
in "Rosemary's Baby" is the neighbors.
最棒的部分就是邻居们
The central figure in this patriarchal crush
这些人中的中心人物
is Ruth Gordon.
就是露丝·戈登
Hi there! We're not bothering you, are we?
你好！我们没打扰到你们吧？
I heard you come in. It certainly wasn't very long.
-我听到你进门了 -肯定不是很久之前
Ta-da! Who comes in with her
走进她的生活
multicolored scarves and her accent
戴着五颜六色的头巾，还有她的口音
and delivers a series of death blows
并且将可怜的罗斯玛丽
to everything that poor Rosemary stands for.
所在的一切立场击得粉碎
Here. What is in it? Tannis root?
-给你 -里面有什么？坦尼斯根吗？
A little bit of that, a little bit some other things.
有一点，还有一点别的东西
They're the kind of neighbors you kind of...all right--
他们就是那种...那种邻居...
You sort of want to avoid them...
平时会躲着绕路走的...
-Yeah. -But you're nice to them.
-是的 -但是你对他们又很友好
-They're nosy... -They're harmless.
-他们话很多... -他们一般无害
They're harmless...
他们一般是无害的...
乔丹·皮尔
编剧/导演 代表作《逃出绝命镇》
And that they are, you know
然后他们...
essentially agents of the...
本质上就是...
-Of the devil. -The devil.
-恶魔的爪牙 -恶魔
We're your friends, Rosemary.
我们是你的朋友，罗斯玛丽
There's nothing to be afraid of, Rosemary.
没有什么可怕的，罗斯玛丽
Honest and truly there isn't.
真的没有任何可怕的
Another thing that I think young women
另一件我认为年轻女性们
really can relate to in "Rosemary's Baby,"
对电影能够感同身受的事情就是
No one believes her.
没有任何人相信她
One thing is for sure.
有一点可以确定
They have a coven, and they want my baby.
他们有个集会，而且他们盯上了我的宝宝
Certainly seems that way.
肯定是这样的
To me, there's no scarier moment in the movie
对我来说，电影中最恐怖的部分
迪亚波罗·科蒂
编剧 代表作《詹妮弗的肉体》
than when you realize her doctor is...
莫过于当你意识到她的医生其实...
has turned on her.
已经背叛了她
That feeling of the person that you've put your ultimate trust in...
那种你最后信任的人背叛你的感觉...
like your obstetrician, this guy who's like,
就好比你的产科医生
Tending to your body and your femininity
负责照顾你的身体和作为女性的一切
and he is handing you over to the satanists.
然而他将你拱手交给了恶魔崇拜者
We're gonna go home and rest.
咱们回家好好休息
That's all it takes.
这就足够了
Nothing supernatural happens, actually
事实上没有任何超自然的事情发生
for the entire course of the movie.
整个电影过程中都没有
You know, she could just be paranoid.
也可能就是她在疑神疑鬼
She could be suffering from some weird pregnancy delusions.
也可能她患有一些孕期的谵妄
What have you done to it?
你们把宝宝怎么了？
What have you done to its eyes?
你们把它的眼睛怎么了？
He has his father's eyes.
他有着他父亲的双眼
It's not until she actually says
直到她说出来
"What have you done to his eyes?"
“你们把他的眼睛怎么了？”
that there is finally a physical manifestation
终于才对她一直经历的事
of what she's been talking about.
有了一些物质上的表现
-God is dead! -Hail Satan!
-上帝已死！ -撒旦万岁！
Satan lives!
撒旦永生！
I made the mistake of showing it to my wife
我曾在我妻子怀孕之后犯了个错误
after I got her impregnated.
给她看了这部电影
Oh, God!
哦，上帝啊！
She's like, "I've never seen it."
她说“我从来没看过哎”
"What? You've never seen 'Rosemary's Baby'?
“什么？你没看过《罗斯玛丽的婴儿》？”
We're watching 'Rosemary's Baby.'"
我们现在就看《罗斯玛丽的婴儿》
I didn't think about how weird
我没想到这电影
that might be for someone who was pregnant
对一个怀孕的人来说有多奇怪
and it really played on her fears
电影确实勾起了她的恐惧
that we were gonna have...
害怕我们会生下...
The antichrist as a child.
生下一个恶魔之子
Uh, it was a bad call.
那真是个错误决定
"Rosemary's Baby" is a movie
《罗斯玛丽的婴儿》讲述了
about the dark side of pregnancy.
关于怀孕的黑暗面
Richard Donner's film "The Omen"
理查德·唐纳的电影《凶兆》
takes things one step further
则更进了一步
with a violent vision of parents
以暴力的方式展现了
at the mercy of the ultimate problem child:
终极问题儿童的对父母的摆布
the spawn of Satan.
撒旦的后裔
When the Jews return to Zion
当犹太人回归锡安
导演：理查德·唐纳
《凶兆》(1976)
"and a comet fills the sky
当彗星划过天际
"the Holy Roman Empire rises
神圣的罗马帝国崛起
and you and I must die."
而你我必须赴死
Released in 1976, Richard Donner's film
于1976年上映的理查德·唐纳的电影
"The Omen" revolves around every parent's secret fear:
《凶兆》以每个父母内心深处的恐惧为中心
that their sweet young child is a demon in disguise.
恐惧着他们的孩子会成为恶魔的化身
"The Omen" is the story of an American diplomat
《凶兆》讲述了一名美国外交官
雷·沃纳尔
编剧/导演 代表作《升级》
played by Gregory Peck
由格里高利·派克饰演
who takes a child home from the hospital
他从医院带回一名...
that is not his own and sets up shop
不是他亲生的婴儿，并成了家
and seems to have this beautiful life in England
看起来在英国过着美满的生活
and then the whole thing starts to unravel
接着整个生活开始分崩离析
and we discover that the child
接着我们发现了这个孩子
is actually the son of the devil.
事实上是恶魔之子
"The Omen" is like my hands-down favorite horror movie.
《凶兆》绝对是我最爱的恐怖电影
It's intellectually a little bit above par
它比平时在录像厅
than the average thing you would watch
大家习惯看到的电影
斯拉施
音乐家/制片人
at the video store, right?
门槛要更高一些
Right. It was a big-budget movie.
是的，这是部高成本电影
Richard Donner. It was a huge deal.
理查德·唐纳执导...非常大的阵势
And Gregory Peck is great in it.
格里高利·派克在片中非常棒
Lee Remick's great in it.
丽·莱米克在片中也非常棒
So I just thought it hit on all--you know
所以我觉得电影有着...你知道
the quality was really high on all the different facets.
整个影片的质量在不同层面都非常高
Gregory Peck in a horror movie.
格里高利·派克出演一部恐怖片
That was kind of a big deal
这不是一件小事
having an actor of his stature.
以他的演员地位
It was a '50s-era
那可是五十年代
established older Hollywood legend
好莱坞的基奠传奇人物
昆汀·塔伦蒂诺
导演
that was now appearing in this horror film
现在愿意在一部恐怖片中出演
and he gave it, along with Lee Remick
他和丽·莱米克一起
gave it this patina of class.
贡献了这样华丽的班底
Peck was going through a terrible time in his life.
派克正在度过人生中非常糟糕的阶段
His son was found dead.
他失去了自己的儿子
He was so devastated
他绝望至极
理查德·唐纳
导演 代表作《凶兆》
and his agent said, "I got to get him out.
他的经纪人说：“我必须带他走出阴霾“
"I got to get him up on his feet.
“我得让他重新振作起来”
I got to get him working."
“我得让他去工作”
We pitched him, "Greg, it's a strong mystery”
我们劝他“这是一个有力的谜案故事”
the suspense is incredible
其中的悬疑简直棒极了
and on top of it, it's a thriller."
“而在一切的前提下，还是一部惊悚片”
Damien, the adopted boy in "The Omen,"
《凶兆》中被收养的男孩达米安
does not seem to be aware that the devil is inside him
似乎并没有意识到居于身体内的邪恶
but as he grows older
但随着他一天天长大
Satan's agents begin infiltrating his life.
撒旦的爪牙开始侵入他的生活
They send a sinister Rottweiler to protect him
他们派来一只邪恶的罗威纳犬来保护他
and, in an infamous scene
在一场臭名昭著的场景中
they possess his nanny at his fifth birthday party.
在他五岁生日派对上附身了他的保姆
Look at me, Damien.
看着我，达米安
"Damien, this is for you."
“达米安，这都是为了你”
she kills herself at the kid's party.
然后就在一群孩子面前自杀了
In "The Omen," we don't really know
在《凶兆》中我们并不确定
that Damien is the antichrist.
达米安就是敌基督
Neither does Gregory Peck. It's not until somewhere
格里高利·派克的角色也不知道
towards the beginning of the second half
直到电影下半部分开始
that you really come to terms with the fact
观众才真正意识到
that they're harboring the antichrist.
他们正在养育的是敌基督
So the movie has a story to tell
于是故事就来了
and then it's gonna be, "What do they do about it?"
之后的走向变成了“他们要怎么做？”
They cast it well.
卡司选得非常好
They cast the son of the devil well.
恶魔之子小演员选得也非常好
-Mom! -Damien--stop!
-妈妈！ -达米安！住手！
When you can get, like, a good performance
一部恐怖片，如果能够...
out of children in a horror movie
让小演员的表演发挥出色
there's, like, nothing more effective.
那么没有什么比这还有效果了
There's just something inherently creepy about kids.
人们对小孩有种本能的恐惧
Even my own children
甚至我亲生的孩子
迪亚波罗·科蒂
编剧 代表作《詹妮弗的肉体》
if they wake me up in the middle of the night
如果他们哪天半夜把我弄醒
and they're just standing motionless next to the bed
然后只是木然地站在床边
I'm briefly scared, and I made them.
我绝对会被我的亲骨肉吓坏
Casting that child, we did one scene where I said
对于敌基督的选择，试镜的是我说道
"I'm gonna grab you"
“我会抓住你”
"And you want to get away."
“而你要想办法挣脱”
Grabbed this kid, went rolling
抓住这孩子，开始拍摄
and he kicked me in my privates...
然后他踢中了我的要害...
So hard that I just threw my hands up
非常用力，让我一下松了手
and said, "Cut!"
我说“卡！”
"Hire him."
“就他了”
After Damien nearly kills his mother
在达米安差点杀死他母亲后
Peck's character searches for the boy's true parents.
派克的角色开始调查男孩的生父生母
His quest triggers an avalanche of violence...
他的调查引发了一系列暴力事件的发生
And death.
并伴随着死亡
The spectacular staging of these scenes
其中蔚为壮观的穿刺场景
is one of the reasons "The Omen"...
成为了《凶兆》被誉为...
Is considered a horror classic.
恐怖经典之作的原因之一
I wasn't prepared for how scary it was gonna get.
我对电影的恐怖程度毫无心理准备
Forget about the gore and everything.
抛开那些血腥场面不说
That--didn't see that coming at all.
这...完全出乎人意料
-You know, just the-- -The dog, the music.
-你知道...整个... -那些狗，还有配乐
The Rottweilers surrounding them
那些罗威纳把他们包围时
in the graveyard was, like
在墓地里那段...
"Oh, my God, what's gonna happen?"
“我的天啊，接下来会怎样？”
But then, the decapitations.
然后，就是断头戏了
I mean, that just-- that was very scary.
那一段...那一段真是非常恐怖了
I never saw that coming.
我完全没有料到
At the end of the movie, we dropped the camera
在电影结尾，镜头下移之后
and it revealed the back of the kid
小孩的背影出现在画面中
which I was right behind the camera.
而我正在摄影机后面
Kid turned and looked at me
小孩转过身看向我
and he had this severe face on
脸上带着严肃的表情
and I said, "Don't you smile. Don't you dare smile."
我说道：“你可别笑，我看你敢笑的”
And he started to fight the smile
于是他开始忍着不笑出来
and then he couldn't fight it anymore, and he kind of lit up.
最后他忍不住，整张脸明朗起来
It was like, blow up, the end of a movie.
这简直是，在电影结尾...
Was this real? Am I really the devil?
这是真的吗？我真的是恶魔吗？
Did this really happen?
这一切都是真的吗？
And it changed the whole movie.
这改变了整个电影
I never had children.
我从未要过小孩
They scare the hell out of me.
小孩总是让我恐惧
At their core, possession movies are about
归根结底，恶灵附身电影表达的
the fear of losing yourself
是对失去自我的恐惧
of a demon taking control of your body and your mind.
是对被恶灵占据身体和心智的恐惧
I can't move.
我动不了
In 2017, Jordan Peele's "Get Out"
2017年，乔丹·皮尔的《逃出绝命镇》
took that idea and used it to hold a mirror up to America.
用这种恐惧撑起了一面照着美国的镜子
Good to see another brother around here.
真高兴在这看到同胞
A young black man meets another young black man.
一名年轻黑人遇到另一名年轻黑人
导演：乔丹·皮尔
《逃出绝命镇》(2017)
Ah, yes. Of course it is.
啊，那是当然
But something is very wrong here.
但有什么感觉非常不对劲
Jordan Peele's "Get Out" is by turns a social satire
乔丹·皮尔的《逃出绝命镇》是一则
and a genuinely horrific tale of demonic possession
兼并了社会讽刺与恶灵附身的恐怖故事
but the demons here aren't from hell.
然而这次的恶魔并非来自地狱
Get out.
快逃
Sorry, man.
抱歉，伙计
Get out!
快逃！
I love, love, love possession films.
我超级, 超级, 超级爱驱魔电影
Hello. Hi.
-你好 -嗨
My mother used to do this thing to me
我妈妈以前喜欢跟我玩的一套
乔丹·皮尔
编剧/导演 代表作《逃出绝命镇》
play this little joke on me. Every now and then, I would go
喜欢跟我开的一个小玩笑就是，每当我闹着
"Mom, Mom, can I get this candy?"
“妈妈, 妈妈我能吃糖吗？”
or whatever, and she would look at me and she'd go...
或者别的什么，她就会看向我说道
"Mommy's not here anymore, Jordan,"
“妈妈已经不在了，乔丹”
and I'd be like, "Don't do it," like, "Come on. Mom."
我马上就“别这样...拜托了，妈妈”
And she'd be like, "I'm serious. Mom isn't here."
她则会说“我是认真的，妈妈现在不在”
Who was she?
那她会是谁呢？
Right. That's the question.
这你就问对了
That's the question I've never answered.
这个问题我一直没有得到答案
All I know is sometimes when...
我只知道有的时候...
if there's too many white people
如果身边有太多的白人
I get nervous, you know?
我会紧张，你知道吗？
"Get Out" is a possession film.
《逃出绝命镇》是一部附身电影
It is a possession film.
这是部附身电影
Instead of the devil possessing you
但并不是恶魔附身于你
it's literally the white devil possessing your body.
而是真实的白皮恶魔在侵占你的身体
I'm into it.
我很感兴趣
Oh, no. No. No.
噢，不，不不不
And there haven't been a lot of movies
而且现在很少有电影能够
that deal with race straight on in the genre space.
直接在类型层面上直面种族问题
Do they know I'm black?
他们知道我是黑人吗？
No.
不知道
And I wanted this movie to be
我希望这部电影能够...
"You can't do this movie with a white guy."
“你没法和白人一起合作这部电影”
My dad would have voted for Obama a third time
如果还有机会，我爸爸愿意...
if he could have. Like, the love is so real.
第三次给奥巴马投票，是真的爱戴他
In a nutshell, it's a story of a black guy
简而言之，故事讲述了一个黑人
马库斯·亨德森
演员 代表作《逃出绝命镇》
who meets his white girlfriend's parents
要去见他白人女友的父母
and kind of gets more than what he's expecting, in a nutshell.
但是遇到了一些意想不到的事...简单来说
I would have voted for Obama for a third term if I could.
如果有机会，我愿意第三次给奥巴马投票
Best president in my lifetime, hands down.
绝对是我有生之年最棒的总统
I agree. Yeah.
这我同意
There is a genuine mystery going on
在《逃出绝命镇》中
昆汀·塔伦蒂诺
导演
in the case of "Get Out."
存在着一个真实的谜团
The audience knows: okay, there's something weird about this family.
观众能感觉到：这个家庭里有奇怪的事发生
There is definitely something weird about those black servants.
那些黑人仆人绝对有什么不对劲
There's something weird about this whole damn place.
这整个地方都有什么不对劲
But exactly what, you don't know.
但你又说不清到底是什么
But now you're really watching
但这让你开始认真看了
because now you're watching a mystery.
因为现在开始你看的是悬疑故事了
Jordan Peele knows exactly what he's doing
乔丹·皮尔很清楚自己在做什么
and we're gonna just have to wait for it.
而观众只需要耐心等待
Do you find that being African-American
你觉得作为非裔美国人
has more advantage or disadvantage?
优点更多还是缺点更多？
Being black in America
作为生活在美国的黑人
there's certain dials you're sort of tuned into
会逐渐形成一些习惯
to not walk into a fucked-up situation.
那就是不要让自己陷入困境
I got hypnotized last night.
我昨晚被催眠了
Get the fuck out of here.
赶紧离开那里吧
No, yo, yo, yeah, yeah, to quit smoking
不是，不是，是为了戒烟的
but Rose's mom's a psychiatrist, so...
罗斯的妈妈是个心理学家，所以...
Bro, I don't care if the bitch
哥们，就算那妹子是*伊雅拉·范森特
*美国知名律师、演讲家，活跃于电视界
is Iyanla Vanzant, okay?
我也不关心，好吗？
She can't fix my fucking life. You ain't getting in my head.
她不能修正我的人生，不许进到我的脑子里
-Chris always thinks he's got the situation in hand -Yeah.
-克里斯一直认为事况还在掌握之中 -是的
Because they're, like a bunch of white people.
因为他们不过是一群白人罢了
What are they gonna do?
他们还能做什么？
We're kind of like, we can forgive him.
我们多少都能原谅他
Oh, he's not being dumb.
噢，他并不是在犯蠢
Is he really going to think even jump to the conclusion
他真的要贸然地认为
that this family is literally evil, physically threats?
这一家人是邪恶的，对他具有人身威胁？
Like, that's crazy.
这太疯狂了
Now...
现在...
Sink into the floor.
沉入地板下
-Wait, wait, wait-- -Sink.
-等等，等等！ -沉下去
The minute Chris is sent into the sunken place
当克里斯被送进沉没空间时
I realized that this movie was not just going to be scary
我意识到这部电影不仅非常恐怖
and not just going to be interesting
而且还会非常有趣
but also going to be important.
而且还会具有很重要的意义
Because he created a metaphor
因为他创造的隐喻
that now gives so many of us language to explain
给了我们非常多的方式
what a state of suppression looks like and feels like.
来解释这样的压迫是什么感觉
Now you're in the sunken place.
现在你进入了沉没空间
When you're in the sunken place
当你在沉没空间时
you can still see what's happening.
你依然能看见发生的事
You're not unaware.
你是清醒的
It's just that you feel there's nothing you can do about it.
只不过你感到束手无策
Someone or something has taken control over you
有人或什么东西控制了你
so therefore you're powerless.
因此你无能为力
And it doesn't matter what color, where you come from
无论你肤色如何，你来自何方
you can be in the sunken place just by not having a voice.
当你失声时，你就进入了沉没空间
In a pivotal scene in "Get Out,"
在《逃出绝命镇》的一处关键情节中
we discover all the black people
我们发现当地克里斯遇见的
Chris has met on the estate have been sold at auction.
所有黑人都是在一个拍卖会上买卖而来的
Their bodies have been taken over by white people
他们的身体被白人所支配
who desire their youth and physicality.
只因贪图他们的年轻与体质
They are trapped in the sunken place, yearning for freedom.
他们被困在沉没空间，渴望着重回自由
It's really a Trojan horse
就像是特洛伊木马
伊利亚·伍德
演员/制片人
for telling a much more important story.
马腹中是另一个更有意义的故事
*黑命也是命
Where the country is certainly helped propel
届时的国家正在帮助
the success of "Get Out," and also made "Get Out"
鼓励着《逃出绝命镇》的成功，但也让...
a particularly important movie for its time
《逃出绝命镇》成为了这个时期一部重要的作品
杰森·布伦
创始人
怖屋监制出品
in a way that, you know, it wouldn't have been
以这种方式...本来不会...
and, you know, I wish that that weren't true, but it is.
你知道，我真希望这不是真的
里尔·莱尔·哈瓦瑞
演员
代表作《逃出绝命镇》
I mean, at the end of the day
归根结底来说
the movie is about how racism is horrifying.
电影是在表达种族歧视的恐怖之处
It's the most horrific thing in our world today
这是我们当今世界上最恐怖的事情
Is just...
这真是...
People just hating other people for whatever reasons they do.
人们以各种借口憎恨着其他人
What is your purpose, Chris?
你的理想是什么，克里斯？
What?
什么？
In life.
你的人生
Is there a better statement
难道还有更好的方式
玛丽·哈伦
导演 代表作《美国精神病人》
on race relations in America? I don't think so, you know?
来讲述美国的种族问题吗？我不觉得
And that's totally pushed the bar on satire and horror
电影提升了讽刺与恐怖作品的标准
and cut very deep
并且一针见血
at the same way is being entertaining.
同时又不乏娱乐性
And that's what genre movies do at their best
这就是类型片最高水准的样子
especially great horror movies.
那些尤其伟大的恐怖电影
It gives you a way to discuss the undiscussable.
能够提供探讨禁忌话题的方式
-Yaaaas. -It gives you a context
-对啦 -能够提供一个语境
to talk about subjects
来探讨这些话题
-That are just awful and painful for everyone... -Yeah.
-那些刺痛所有人的话题 -是的
But you can put it in the context of a scary movie
但你将语境设置在一部恐怖电影里
Whether it's a zombie movie, whether it's a "Get Out" movie
无论是僵尸电影，还是《逃出绝命镇》
and it's like you're suddenly allowed to talk about it.
就好像突然之间禁忌被打破了
And everybody needs it.
现在人人都需要谈论它
Even if it's not in the package of a horror movie
即使不是在恐怖电影的背景下探讨
Everybody has this dark side that needs to be filled.
每个人都有一个需要满足的黑暗面
I mean, I told you not to go in that house.
我告诉过你别进那间房子